$49.99 $44.99. Missouri was our Auschwitz for goodness sakes….unless you dont believe the Nazi concentration camps never happened Hawkgrrl!!! Or that it is centered in Utah? Persecuted now? #4 – I didn’t include YouTube but that would be interesting. 2 – Is persecution that ended 150 years ago valuable to dwell on for us today? 1 The Origins of the Church 2 The … On February 4, 1846, the first wagons ferried across the Mississippi to Iowa. 28. For consistency sake, all numbers of hits are expressed in millions. You probably know that Germans enjoy healthy living and so she really loved to walk anytime she’d get a chance. How does the actual (vs. perceived) persecution of our faith compare with that of others? The headquarters of the church is only two steps away from a siege mentality. Mormon History. PRODUCT DETAILS. It has always been “us” vs “them,” in some form or fashion. April 9, 2012 9:37 am . This guy needs mental health counselling. ), rather than in modern media terms. And a persecution complex helps no one. On an aside, Until I formally began to investigate Christianity I didn’t fully stay aware of, and was surprised –though I shouldn’t have been — at how much oppositional rhetoric there still is among the Christian body. When I became Pagan, I was bemused to find the same … Google searches typically have youtube videos at the top of search results as they own Youtube. But “persecution” is subjective. are they a peculiar people or just average every day joe smiths? One question as to your methodology: do sites that oppose a religion classify themselves as “anti-“? As the Mormons searched for a place to build their Zion, they were met with an escalating campaign of persecution and mob violence. My searches were done on March 28, 2008. getting tired of explaining who she was and what was this weird habit of walking she decided to use some other not very used roads and this is how she eventually became friends with the Amish up to this day. Of course, one of the most difficult factors in trying to converse about such things is that persecution complex is a real belief. 99% of those who read it and don’t understand why it is misleading will never find out that it is. All religions (including atheism) are openly opposed by someone on the internet. Protestants mistrust the legalism of Catholicism. ... A forum for ex-mormons and others who have been affected by mormonism to share news, commentary, and comedy about the Mormon church. I’m guessing that for brevity the researcher does include it when they say “results”. I argued strenuously in the candidate’s favor, particularly since we had just voted to extend a job offer to a less qualified candidate. And anti-Semitism — well at least doctrinally — is still pretty common in traditional and older communities. It would be hard to determine empirically. Are Mormons really more persecuted than other faiths or do Mormons just perceive that because the criticism is aimed at us? A very early history, 1805-1831, from the birth of Joseph Smith to the founding of the Church. Being peculiar at any time certainly means dealing with tensions and ostracism. ADD TO CART. Date: April 8, 2008 Author: hawkgrrrl 0 Comments. Funny enough, it also was in a law firm recruiting committee meeting, albeit at a different office. At the same time, I may be just as guilty of religious discrimination. Hawkgrrrl April 8, 2008 Anti-Mormon, christianity, church, Culture, Discrimination, evangelicals, history, inter-faith, jehovahs witnesses, LDS, Mormon, mormon, Mormons, religion, restoration, theology 43 Comments. Every trailer for these movies is the same. The same was true for “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (1.5 million hits vs. 12.8 for LDS; however, several “LDS” hits were unrelated to the church). I say with as much authority as your study that the persecution of Mommons is where it has always been, local and not national. I attend with people that truly know the Lord but don’t get the Thee and Thou  right. Given the hostility directed at Mormons throughout the history of their religion -- including the massacre of early Mormon… The purported attack on religious freedom is just the newest version. Letting Our Inner Light Rebuild the World in... To say the least, 2020 was a hard year. Only about half of Mormons, according to one study, feel that depictions of Mormonism in entertainment media (television, movies) are fair to their faith, and more Mormons (46%) identified contemporary discrimination directed at themselves than at African-Americans (31%), an unlikely attitude that prompted some derision. Fundamental Evs dislike the Liberal Mainliners. In 1882, the Edmunds Act, which outlawed cohabitation with more than one woman, was passed. Are there as many anti-[insert religion here] as there are anti-Mormons? Early in the late 90’s I remember anti-Mormom sites being higher up on search engines. His adherence to Mormon survivalist views subjected his family to a number of privations. The urban dictionary defines the term persecution complex as follows: One of the top fifteen factors that can transform a reasonable, amiable, friendly person with reasonable, friendly beliefs and ideas into a ranting, screaming, judgmental zealot with poisonous, nauseating, self-righteous dreck for beliefs. Is “anti” stuff bad or is it true that there’s no such thing as bad press? Great Mormon Exodus. Some of the Romney press brought great results, but a few conversions (one literally happened in our stake due to the person’s curiosity to see if all the crap was true) doesn’t negate the thousands or milloins (at least) who are calcified in their opposition by the same bad press. But neither does trading in casual Mormon mockery. Intellectual Reserve, Inc. Back in 2006, Mormon leaders petitioned for … I have observed clear distinctions between Mormons and Latter-day Saints. Seems a little prosecutorial. “We” Mormons have always had a persecution complex originating from historical events in church history. Living in the west now, I forget that there is still so much ignorance and bigotry elsewhere. The candidate was a Berkley undergrad, BYU law student near the top of his class. will they ever grow out of it? The nickname has been commonly used, especially by those outside the Church, to refer to the Church since that time. Paranoid isn't exactly the right word, but growing up Mormon definitely instilled in me (and, probably, in most other youthful Mormons on their way to adulthood) what might be called a bit of a persecution complex. The branch is filled with probably 90% converts. Notice I have made a distinction between Mormons and Latter-day Saints. 3 – Where does “anti” stuff originate? The hard thing here is that we (or at least I) don’t know the terminology that different groups would use to describe themselves, their outreach, their attacks, their truth-telling, or whatever else it is they are doing. For example, is the tone of anti-Mormon sites more heated, or less heated, than that found on Anti-JW sites? ADD TO CART. The treatment Mormons get today is far more favorable than the conflict of times long past, yet it is still significant enough to figure in Mormons’ thinking and experience. When science and history are used to refute Mormonism — as is so easily and thoroughly done now with the Internet — it’s typically done by Ex-mormons. Persecution was practically the theme of the pageant after the restoration of the Gospel and the trek west. And yet Christians are often fearful of engaging in conversations about the gospel with Mormons, knowing that there are suspicions and complex issues that lie beneath the surface. The only question I have is this: Is the phrase “anti-” a Mormon phrase? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Andrew will back me up….he has seen them!!! Disgruntled ex-Mormons? #5 – My son and I are closet Pastafarians (Mormons with a side of Pasta). Site hits with just religious name returned both supportive and non-supportive sites; I did not differentiate. What is open to debate is the contemporary connotations of “complex,” as the term is used: the extent to which Mormons generally continue to feel persecuted, together with the implications of this sensibility for their contemporary sense of self and their interactions with broader society. And yes Brigham Young was right….there are still men on the moon called Moonies!!! I next googled the “anti” of each of these religions and found: Anti Ratio. All rights reserved. Mormon persecution complex still alive. In 1820, Joseph Smith experienced what he later described as a vision of God and Jesus who told Smith that he would become the means for restoring the true Christian church. Hmm, I guess I should post on anti-Mormon crusades. Some bad press is so ridiculous it makes us look good. As has been widely reported during this political season, Mormons face considerable suspicion and even hostility from Americans. Mormon settlers began a westward exodus, escaping persecution, in the 1830s. These hostilities manifest show themselves in political surveys, which indicate that substantial portions of these voting blocs would, as a matter of course, refuse to vote for a Mormon running for President of the United States. I once was sitting in a law firm recruiting meeting. A significant number of the attorneys on the recruiting committee had developed a bias against non-drinkers because they weren’t as fun to party with. My teacher was a teenager in the sixties and she is German. Revenge or sympathy? 35% (like me) said we’d sleep in on Sundays. Some people view the bad press with skepticism, investigate further, and find it is untrue and there is much to be admired. We can do what Jesus would do. Good work. Mormons are a religious group that embrace concepts of Christianity as well as revelations made by their founder, Joseph Smith. Mormons were violently persecuted and pushed from Ohio to Missouri, from Missouri to Illinois and from Illinois, they were pushed west to the Utah Territory. And there is the Church of Scientology. I was waiting at the train station this morning, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off as a train approached. This branch has an overabundance of rich spirit. -Michael Quinn. I for one have had “MPC”… maybe it’s from hearing all of those church history stories at church where we are always the victims (and never the perpetrators). Posts about History written by admin. “Anti” Site Hits. I think it’s fair to say, however, that using the search term “anti” probably underestimates the number of sites that oppose each group (from Mormons to Catholics to Muslims to athiests). Posts about Paranoia written by Loco Lowe. However, both “Mormonism” (0.20 ratio) and “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” (0.33 ratio) had a higher anti ratio on par with the Universal Unitarian, Jehovah’s Witness and Mennonite group above. Is it necessary to dwell on it to honor those who made sacrifices? Join us this hour to learn how to understand more about the beliefs, mindset and motivations of those who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons), and to reach out to them … Among self-conscious Mormons and attuned outside observers, there is a popular perception that Mormons have a peculiar sense of their own reproach. Google searches render a different number of hits on different days; these numbers are constantly in flux. Share this: Click to share on Facebook (Opens in … And a persecution complex helps no one. Site hits with “anti” will also include supportive sites discussing discrimination, not just sites that are opposed to the religion in question; again, I did not differentiate. This is sometimes blown out of proportion in the church though, and runs the risk of collapsing on itself. That’s the million-dollar question. It might be more accurate to call it a spiritual movement. The faithful have been persecuted from time to time. I believed the Mormon Church secured my eternal life. There was even a piece of music at one time, called the Persecution Ballet. I’d guess that most “anti” falls under this category, as I run into it quite often without noticing it’s “anti”. On August 16 of that year, the Latter Day Saint Times and Seasonsreported the Mormons' confidence that although the Anti-Mormon Almanac was de… Yep, we Jesus Lovers don’t seem to have come very far. A headline today said, “400 children saved from Mormon sect amid allegations of abuse” – referring to the FLDS, not us. Some of the key questions that seem to be coming up in this discussion are: 1 – What is persecution? The Haun’s Mill Massacre is an example. The Persecution complex that is. $24.99. There were incidents of massacre, home burning and pillaging, followed by the death of their prophet, Joseph Smith. Instead of “anti”, you should have used “outreach ministries”. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Internet presence. Me too!…Are you Baptist church of God or Baptist church of the Lord?” He said, “Baptist church of God!”, I said, “Me too! One year after ReligionUnplugged.com broke stories about a secretive investment firm connected to the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-Day Saints, the firm – Ensign Peak Advisors (EPA) – now operates with slightly more transparency about its financial holdings even as scrutiny from Washington may not be complete. (The data might have changed over time since then). This whole post sounds like another hit job on the Mormons to me. Persecution from the government only increased as the Mormon Church continued to grow. I can’t believe that you left out my church, The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. I decided to take a very cursory, unscientific, yet interesting look at this question. Importantly, there are no effects of their persecution that remain in our culture (other than the Mormon persecution complex, but that’s sort of a Christian thing, too). My selection of churches was not comprehensive. Is it essential for Mormons to maintain their belief to have a persecution complex? But that may not have been Hawkgrrl’s point; maybe, because she’s dealing with a subjective persecution complex, she was looking for subjective results. So I ran over and said “Stop! Tag Archives: Mormon Persecution Complex. It’s science! The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster. the real ones who don’t even want to have their picture taken. The methodology of my experiment was simple:  I did a Google search of 22 different religions. What would an “Anti-Presbyterian Crusade” crusade about? ADD TO CART. Exmormons. That’s more dinner conversation than anything else. These beliefs were the available alternatives to helplessness. (And they note only about a quarter of Unaffiliated types self identify as agnostic or athiest.) July 23, 2012 The Mormon “Persecution Complex” Recent Comments. Ray, I agree that some bad press is indeed harmful. In the historical sense, the Mormon “persecution complex” is not a theory to be verified or disproved. Life in Zion. But neither does trading in casual Mormon mockery. The Mormon Church is an unofficial name used to refer to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Persecution Complex You know, LDS Church leaders are giving me more material than I can keep up with. Mormons sense persecution, not merely because of a sense of beleaguered nostalgia, but because of real contemporary conditions. ft. immaculately decorated homes, making comments in R.S. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We lived in a very well to do ward in Idaho, many dentists and doctors etc., in the ward. I agree with Sam B. Well, that’s a pretty benign statement, unless, of course, you happen to be an FLDS member. For example, I know that Scientologists (a group I assumed would have had a much higher “anti ratio”) are the subject to numerous anti videos. Paranoid isn’t exactly the right word, but growing up Mormon definitely instilled in me (and, probably, in most other youthful Mormons on their way to adulthood) what might be called a bit of a persecution complex. 185k. You seem to really want to be special. I don’t put much stock in your Internet research. But yet, the church promotes it as a massacre. I’ve seen a number of those, nary a single “anti-Presbyterian” crusade. ADD TO CART. Be it racial, religious, gender based or whatever is by it’s very nature local and not national. But I also think there is a certain “persecution complex,” which is that we’re a bit trigger happy in jumping to the conclusion that someone is out to get us when they really aren’t. What is the point of the “anti” movement? PRODUCT DETAILS. The Mormon Conspiracy Theorist post is yet to come! That Mormons, in their distant past, experienced … You can count on these things happening in any trailer for a Mormon movie dealing with the early church.-A door being kicked down with a Mormon being dragged from his home while a baby screams But does this dislike actually translate into “persecution”? Certainly that has been the case in Mormons’ history. Are there as many anti-[insert religion here] as there are anti-Mormons? When I was going to university I took this class about the Amish. Prop 8 Persecution Complex. level 1 Newer religious movements (Scientology, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness, Seventh-day Adventist) have more active, open and targeted opposition on the internet. Lot’s of people do not like the FLDS. Many took some level of comfort in the proverbial wisdom that true believers always face persecution, and that opposition is a signal of divine favor. I’ve noticed that the same is true of a lot of Christians. John Taylor, the president of the Mormon Church, goes “underground” to avoid arrest and continue resisting federal demands for reforms within the community of What it a massacre? To instill prejudice? #19 Steve Wellington – I’m sorry, but this post is on the Mormon Persecution Complex. Also, “outreach ministries,” while it would pick up certain anti-LDS thought, would probably not pick up anti-Protestant sites in general. There’s persecution and there’s persecution. Anti-Mormonism is discrimination, persecution, hostility or prejudice directed against the Latter Day Saint movement, particularly The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). Support the troops, my ass. "It is unfair to say that they courted persecution. It's imbedded within the psyche of the culture." This is what we’re going to explore in our final topic – how would Jesus relate to Mormons? …Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?” He said, “Baptist!”, I said, “Wow! Get updates from Peculiar People delivered straight to your inbox. It has as high an internet presence as Presbyteriansism, with Google bringing up 434,000 hits when searched today (8 April). 18 Latter-day Saints were killed. But that’s not an option if we are committed to biblical truth. There was a REASON people hated the Mormons, and it had everything to do with their behavior. Every single Mormon persecution story leaves out the motive of those on the other side. Mormon Persecution Complex. These are legitimate concerns. *grin*. Its funny to have a persecution complex emerge when you least expect it. Older, traditional worshippers think Christians like me would be more holy if we dressed in “Sunday best” and sang traditional hymns. 2 DVD Gift Pack Set. As a minority faith in America, Mormons too have at times experienced intolerance, including some of the most infamous religious persecution in American history. The only Christian traditions that seem to be growing are non-denominational types, which tend to shake up tradition, in practice, worship style or even doctrinal emphasis. The term "anti-Mormon" first appears in the historical record in 1833 by the Louisville Daily Herald in an article, "The Mormons and the Anti-Mormons" (the article was also the first to label believers in the Book of Mormon as "Mormons"). Thanks in advance. Verlin Richins. October 21, 2008 – 11:48 pm; Posted in Not Funny; Tagged California, Mormon Persecution Complex, Proposition 8; Comments Off on Prop 8 Persecution Complex; Have Any One of You Self Rightious Pricks Considered That Your Beloved Persecuter May Be Suffering From PTSD? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. But I would add the caveat that some intentionally bad press has beneficial outcomes. Some hilarious hubris from Jeff Holland's talk at Windsor Castle. Ex-mormons are not motivated by hate, as Mormons like to say. Hindus have been brutally persecuted during the historical Islamic rule of the Indian subcontinent [13] [ better source needed ] and during Portuguese rule of Goa . Also, send me the Latter-day Saint Newsletter and special offers. PRODUCT DETAILS. Because Evangelicals still treat Mormons with deep suspicion, Mitt Romney has been deploying the language of “common ground” in his attempt to unite the Republican vote, writes Abby Ohlheiser. Are you reformed Baptist church of God, reformation of 1879, or reformed Baptist church of God, reformation of 1915?”, He said, “Reformed Baptist church of God, reformation of 1915!”. All historic Mormon films are just persecution porn to fuel TBM’s persecution complex. Hawkgrrrl October 19, 2008 abuse, christianity, church, Culture, curiosity, faith, Mormon, mormon, Mormons, religion, smith, thought 13 Comments This week’s lesson is an interesting compilation of horrifying stories of persecution and suffering from the life of Joseph Smith. Are you a former McCain/Huckabee staffer? First Blush, I noticed that only the following religions had an “anti” site (a site opposing the religion) on their first page of hits: Interestingly, these religions (with the possible exception of atheism) are all newer religious movements (I chose not to use the pejorative NRM which is often used synonymously with “cult”), and all but atheism and Scientology are Restorationist Christian movements from the Second Great Awakening (1800-1830). Only 8% said head to the local pub. Research from the Pew Forum on Religion and American Life, which provides the best and most extensive (public) data on contemporary attitudes about Mormonism and among Mormons, indicates that a majority of Mormons do indeed feel disliked and especially ostracized in American society. On August 16 of that year, the Latter Day Saint Times and Seasons … It might be more accurate to call it a spiritual movement. Because of this sensitivity, they are likely to see hostility to their faith, whatever the circumstances. It’s time to give it up. And I had never seen the resulting backlash play so easily into a Mormon persecution complex, transforming what was essentially an internal doctrinal position into a battleground between the church and its surrounding communities. Established protestant religions receive proportionately more “anti” hits due to how they were formed and tend to have lower internet presence. Meanwhile, regardless of cumulative Christian net loss, certainly America is becoming more religiously polarized. Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve always heard the “persectuion complex” discussion framed in historical terms (Haun’s Mill, etc. Hallmarks of Loyalty: paying tribute to the past (Pioneer Day?) I then did a search for “anti [religion]” for each of those faiths. Misrepresented now? The antipathy is especially strong among evangelical Christians, who have deep aversions to the “heresies” of Mormon theology, and among a far-left fringe of liberal Americans, who resent the LDS Church’s involvement in social politics on issues like same-sex marriage, and who often have a resentment for religion generally. “Bias,” which suggests an embedded but largely dormant antagonism, may be still justified. Then I determined the ratio between anti hits and regular hits to estimate which churches may be getting the most proportionately negative internet press. Created Jun 16, 2009. The Church has outreach meetings for Spanish-speakers in Utah, but they’re not anti-Spanish speaker, or anti-Catholic, even. The Mormon Persecution Complex "Among self-conscious Mormons and attuned outside observers, there is a popular perception that Mormons have a peculiar sense of their own reproach. Were you involved in making the PBS show on the Mormons? Her first goal is to infiltrate them and then play Freudian mindgames with us to convince us that we are not God’s chosen and persecuted people!!! The Persecution of the Mormons During the 19th century, the newly formed Mormon religion encountered significant persecution. The Mormon protest of the art for "Once Upon a Deadpool" is self-absorbed and silly, revealing a persecution complex that just won't go away. Close. Danites, stealing wives, etc. This exercise does not address the quality of the sites (or level of antagonism of “anti” sites) returned by a Google search, only the quantity. I’m not sure. I am referring to some percentage of “active” or practicing Mormons. These are SUCH good people; they simply believe some horrible things about us and won’t listed because of the distortions they hear regularly in church and from the media.” He was absolutely right. Calling any of it “anti- this or that” seems a little strong, especially the way I was used to the term as a Mormon. Romney’s campaign brought that out loud and clear. This and other interpretations gave their difficult experiences meaning, and became integral to how they conceived themselves as a distinct, and distinctly persecuted people. $19.99. “You’d be surprised,” Harvard Law School’s Noah Feldman once observed, “by … Don’t do it!” He said “Why shouldn’t I?”. Definitely. I said, “Die, heretic scum”…and pushed him off. Your email address will not be published. And I had never seen the resulting backlash play so easily into a Mormon persecution complex, transforming what was essentially an internal doctrinal position into a battleground between the church and its surrounding communities. It would be unthinkable—impossible, in fact—for Mormons to jettison elements of their identity that have given rise to who they are. #24 SAP – Scientology is not exactly a religion, but it’s not exactly a non-religion either. All hail, Flying Spaghetti Monster! Not only have opinions and conditions changed, but steady growth in size and substance have moved Mormonism and helplessness worlds apart. How do you think inclusion of YouTube material would skew the results? Remarkable … Also we have General Conference which is a great opportunity to see good ol’ Lighthouse Ministries call us baby killers or something else ridiculous (I was there, I saw them with the anti-abortion sign). Mormons of the time interpreted the opposition they experienced in a number of ways. "I don't think the church will ever break out of its persecution complex. Persecution, to a Mormon, is complete validation of their world view--which is succinctly described as Mormons vs. "the world 1. Mormons have a persecution complex. Copyright © 2019 Mormon Matters. I, too, have witnessed real, honest-to-goodness, discrimination against Mormons. One question — did you take a look at YouTube videos? A Annual Eduacational Week of other religions sponsored by the largest protestant church in the area, with thursday being Cult night and a discussion of Mormonism. And sometimes the bad press just opens more dialogue on the topic, and the dialogue can have positive outcomes. And although Mormons have been largely assimilated by mainstream American culture over the last several decades, Mormons still see themselves as victims of persecution–it’s almost a siege mentality. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! It can also make it easier to rally individuals behind a cause, by identifying (or sometimes manufacturing) a common enemy. They are some of the great strengths of the faith and lie at the root of Mormons’ distinctive cultural identity. For goodness sakes…WE ARE PERSECUTED JUST LIKE THE JEWS!!! Next she will be saying that the Haun’s Mill Massacre was just dreamed up by the Mormons so that we can rule the world using anti-mormonism as a cover!!! …Are you Christian or Buddhist?” He said, “Christian.”, I said, “Me too! I’d say that we are not that persecuted on the internet because there aren’t that many ex-mormons who hold a grudge against the church. Even here in California there are enough Utah transplants that have brought their persecution complexes with them that suburban Orange County wards have many cultural Mormons that are on what I call “auto pilot”. But then if we try to get our kids into a baptist or catholic school we will probably run into the subtle persecution that happens every day to Mormons. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. But given the recent embarrassment of riches, that can hardly be the fullness of  purpose for peculiarity in Mormonism today. I’m not sure what the total value equation works out to be, though. #19 Steve Wellington – I’m sorry, but this post is on the Mormon Persecution Complex. The attorney leading the meeting wanted to ding a perfectly qualified LDS candidate because he felt we were becoming “too much of a Mormon-friendly firm.” My jaw hit the floor. I believe the LDS church has been around long enough now that there are people who culturally are Mormon but they are not Latter-day Saints. But painting ourselves the victim, even when we are, doesn’t recommend us to others or put us on equal footing. Women were raped and tortured. Mormons today have abilities and opportunities–responsibilities, even–in relating to the larger world today that the past couldn’t dream of. Discuss. just to let you know Mormons belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints, I believe many Mormons do have a persecution complex. 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